Subject: Re: [harryproa] Equivalency numbers
From: "=?UTF-8?B?QmrDtnJu?= bjornmail@gmail.com [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
Date: 7/3/2018, 2:43 PM
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Bernd Kohler makes the smallest boats in pure wood+epoxy. The larger boats have glass on the outside, and probably on both sides in loaded areas.
http://www.ikarus342000.com/Woodepoxy.htm

I corrected a mistake (first triax) and added F700 to the table:

FibreEpoxyEpoxy for coreCore thicknessCore densityCore weightWeightNote
000.130.61.82.00 kg/m²3mm ply + epoxy
000.160..63.63.80 kg/m²6mm ply + epoxy
000.1120.67.27.40 kg/m²12mm ply + epoxy
0.40.20.2120.080.962.56 kg/m²Triax + H80, 3mm ply equivalent
0.750.3750.2120.080.963..61 kg/m²Triax + H80, 6mm ply equivalent
1.50.750..2190.081.526.42 kg/m²Triax + H80, 12mm ply equivalent
0.40.20.2120.0450.542.14 kg/m²Triax + F700, 3mm ply equivalent
0.750.3750.2120.0450.543.19 kg/m²Triax + F700, 6mm ply equivalent
1.50.750.2190.0450.8555.76 kg/m²Triax + F700, 12mm ply equivalent
0.20.10.230.080.241.24 kg/m²Carbon 200gsm + H80, Robs 3mm ply+glass equivalent
0.20.10.130.61.82.60 kg/m²3mm ply + 200gsm glass



Regarding carbon and 3mm F700, I'm not sure the core would take it. I think the shear strength might be too low, meaning that at least twice the core thickness is needed, so the weight would be the same.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 7:59 PM, '.' eruttan@yahoo.com [harryproa] <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
 

I didn't know anyone did ply without glass and just painted in epoxy.

Can you add xps 400 and 700?

On July 3, 2018 5:00:00 PM UTC, "Björn bjornmail@gmail.com [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
|This is the result of my calculations for weight:
|Fibre Epoxy Epoxy for core Core thickness Core density Core weight
|Weight
|Note
|0 0 0.1 3 0.6 1.8 2.00 kg/m² 3mm ply + epoxy
|0 0 0.1 6 0.6 3.6 3.80 kg/m² 6mm ply + epoxy
|0 0 0.1 12 0.6 7.2 7.40 kg/m² 12mm ply + epoxy
|0.4 0.2 0.1 12 0.08 0.96 2.36 kg/m² Triax + H80, 3mm ply equivalent
|0.75 0.375 0.2 12 0.08 0.96 3.61 kg/m² Triax + H80, 6mm ply equivalent
|1.5 0.75 0.2 19 0.08 1.52 6.42 kg/m² Triax + H80, 12mm ply equivalent
|0.2 0.1 0.2 3 0.08 0.24 1.24 kg/m² Carbon 200gsm + H80, Robs 3mm
|ply+glass
|equivalent
|0.2 0.1 0.1 3 0.6 1.8 2.60 kg/m² 3mm ply + 200gsm glass
|
|Values in the bottom is to get a sense of what can be achieved with
|carbon.
|It's from one of Robs posts on boatdesign.net.
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|On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:09 PM, StoneTool owly@ttc-cmc.net [harryproa]
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|harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
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|> Here are some ply to sandwich equivalency numbers I found
|interesting.
|> Note the core thicknesses.
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|> H.W.
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