I am still thinking on this. But high band width meat to meat communication is probably important. Text loses things.

Like look how everyone already knows what core I will use when I have said no such thing.

But, no matter what, all details will be public and hammered out so I can argue a lot with people on email.

Because obviously it's my very favorite thing.

On November 19, 2018 3:19:07 AM UTC, "Jeff Royster jeffroyster@gmail.com [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
| Keep us all clued in. Y'all arent the only 2 with similar desires.
| In
| fact I bet if you get the rough details sorted out Rob would see it
| as
| different enough and solving common enough issues as to make it a
| standard
| design.
|
| For example I'm personally nearing a point in my life that will
| virtually
| dictate what kind of HP I build. 1 path is definitely a
| maxi-trailer,
| though I THINK I would go with more of an Air approach than an Ex.
| Another
| path would be much more comfy on a 50 but I'd have to really soul
| search
| that man-hour comittment. But the overall point is that you 2 are
| not that
| unique in your overall goal and we all benefit from the discussion.
| Not to
| discourage meat world communications as email can certainly be
| tedious and
| unproductive, just a request to keep us clued in with anything you
| come up
| with off-line.
| Cheers
|
|
| On Sun, Nov 18, 2018, 6:35 PM Rob Denney harryproa@gmail.com
| [harryproa] <
| harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > What a great idea. We would love to be involved. Let me know when
| it is
| > happening if you want to include me in a Skype chat.
| >
| >
| >
| > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 8:22 AM Mike Crawford mcrawf@nuomo.com
| > [harryproa] <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
| >
| >>
| >>
| >> <<I am hoping I can tag along with your mods to the EX40. I think
| it
| >> would be great for HP's to have a pair of sister HP's>>
| >>
| >> Erutan,
| >>
| >> I've been pondering this for a week now and think it could
| possibly
| >> work out.
| >>
| >> What's interesting is that I can't think of anyone agree with
| more, and
| >> also agree with less, than you. That probably makes for a good
| design mix
| >> in the end.
| >>
| >> You've done more to revitalize this group, and bring up good
| questions
| >> about materials, than anyone in recent years, and you've
| definitely been
| >> much more useful than I have. My comments mostly summarize the
| past,
| >> and/or say that I now agree with Rob's choice of X after Y years
| of
| >> doubting it.
| >>
| >> No need to outline where we disagree; we both know it. If we
| had
| >> sister boats, they'd likely have different cores. ;-)
| >>
| >> I also would want to work out most of the details in person. I
| think
| >> I'd enjoy spending time with you, and that we could accomplish a
| lot over a
| >> few beers, coffees, seltzers, whatever. On the other hand, trying
| to work
| >> things out through email or a discussion forum would likely be
| stressful..
| >>
| >> ---
| >>
| >> How about this as food for thought:
| >>
| >> - If you happen to be in or near Maine next summer, or would
| like to
| >> take a trip, I'll pick you up at the airport, host you for a long
| weekend.
| >>
| >> - We could go sailing on our current multihul and I could
| fill you
| >> in on all the reasons why the harryproa designs have convinced me
| to sell
| >> it. You could also experience for yourself some of the pros and
| cons of
| >> "traditional" lightweight catamaran designs.
| >>
| >> - Weather permitting, we could go out again the next day and
| start
| >> hashing out the details. Or go to a coffee shop, pub, or cabin in
| the
| >> woods, and start settling on the broad strokes. And/or coming up
| with
| >> areas where we agree to disagree, and the plans would fork.
| >>
| >> - Once we're happy with what we have, we see if Rob and
| Steinar are
| >> wiling to modify the ex40 into an ex48 maxiTrailer if you and I
| chip in
| >> together and purchase a set of plans jointly.
| >>
| >> - We wouldn't actually get plans, but the design would be
| there, we'd
| >> have some nice renderings, and then either of us could get actual
| plans by
| >> paying his remaining half.
| >>
| >>
| >> Of course, this would be completely dependent upon what Rob and
| Steinar
| >> would like to do. It's easy for me to propose that someone else
| put the
| >> cherry on top of what already is a design that's basically my
| dream boat..
| >>
| >> That said, it's possible that a certain amount of funding could
| coax
| >> the design into at least a basic renderings/vaporware stage. I
| wouldn't
| >> dream of asking someone to design, for free, the "perfect" boat
| for a
| >> single person, but if the design were paid for, and were for more
| than one
| >> person, it might make sense.
| >>
| >> If not, I'll stick with my current plan of buying a full set of
| plans
| >> sometime in the next few years and asking the questions then.
| There's no
| >> point in requesting design alterations if I'm not ready to start
| building.
| >>
| >> - Mike
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> '.' eruttan@yahoo.com [harryproa] wrote on 11/10/2018 4:32 PM:
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> | My goal is the largest transportable boat at 10' to 12' wide
| on the
| >> trailer (no lead or tail "wide load" vehicles required), that can
| be folded
| >> safely while on the water, and trailered by two adults.
| >>
| >> This is probably exactly my desire. I might add quick set up and
| take
| >> down. But that speed might come from refinement through
| experience.
| >> I am hoping I can tag along with your mods to the EX40. I think it
| would
| >> be great for HP's to have a pair of sister HP's. Also, I don't
| know enough
| >> about sailing to know what I want, or where I want it, or why.
| >>
| >> | The proa would be much faster, safer, more seaworthy, and also
| less
| >> stressful to trailer with mast-raising assist poles that hoist the
| masts up
| >> at their center of gravity and allow you to drop them into their
| casings..
| >> I like the mast-raising setup on the trimarans, but it only works
| on the
| >> trailer, and it involves huge horizontal stresses on the mast
| bearing in
| >> the early phase of raising it up.
| >>
| >> Perhaps Robs telescoping masts makes sense, as the masts can fit
| on the
| >> trailer. Also the shorter mast is perhaps easier to wield.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >