Subject: [harryproa] Re: Asymmetry |
From: "Mike Crawford mcrawf@nuomo.com [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> |
Date: 3/3/2019, 12:52 AM |
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au |
Reply-to: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au |
<<Would not larger sail and lighter weight favour the HP in
light airs?>>
That's a tough question.
The long hull wouldn't help with very light winds, and I believe
the tri will have a lower wetted surface area for a given
displacement.
But the proa doesn't have to carry around that extra ama, so it
will have a lighter weight for a given righting moment, and that
will reduce its surface area. If the rigs are equal, the question
isn't which boat has less wetted surface area for a given
displacement, but which boat has less surface area needed for the
righting moment that matches the sail.
The two might be very close.
I'd give the proa an edge for light air in terms of actual use for
the following reasons:
- In really light winds, particularly with a schooner rig, you
can always shunt. The tri will have a tough time coming about once
the wind drops below a certain level.
- The proa will be able to safely carry more sail area, so you
can fly more sail, more of the time, without having to worry if the
wind "gusts" from 4 knots to 8 knots.
- Once the wind does pick up, the tri will eventually run the
risk of tripping over its ama, while the long lw hull in the proa
will be very seakindly. Unless it's a tri with a huge ama to
leeward, in which case we're not making the original comparison.
The two would end up being really close in light winds, so I'm not
sure you could declare one a winner to the extent that it would
convince a trimaran fan to switch to a proa, or vice-versa.
But if the proa can equal the tri in light winds, I'd have to go
with it because of the performance and safety when the wind gets
big.
- Mike
Can not the HP carry a larger sail, compared to the tri, assuming similar margins of safety?
Is not the hp in this comparison assumed lighter than the tri?
Would not larger sail and lighter weight favour the HP in light airs?
Or is wetted surface the larger variable?
On March 2, 2019 10:35:57 PM UTC, "Rick Willoughby rickwill@bigpond.net.au [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
| The difference in wetted surface between proa and tri will not be 40%
| in light conditions but something less than that. There needs to be
| a reasonable immersed length of the ama to avoid wave making drag.
|
| Then the tri has the windage of the windward ama and its beams. That
| is not insignificant.
|
| The light air performance is likely to favour the tri but it would
| require detailed analysis to assess the difference.
|
|
| Rick
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