- Mike
| See attached. If not, let
me know and I will put it in the Files.
| The white straps can have plastic inserts or balls to run
smoothly, or someone sitting on the boom to leeward of the
lee hull to take the weight off.
Honestly, that's very sexy. Closed, light, and very simple.
Does this even need internal lines? Can they not all just be
external? Address's the maintenance. Show off how stupid
simple it is?
(Side note, no reason I could not build for my E25, to
test?)
Perhaps UHMWPE as bearing surfaces?
Can 2 almost 12' beams that go almost to the outside of each
hull get us to ~22’? If I did the maths right.
Can those beams get good strong bury to each hull and still
let the other beam slide in that deep?
Perhaps need a 3rd beam to get the width to 25'+?
Lowest beam to windward, and highest to lee?
Perhaps if we get the beam lengths dialed in, we can get a
final length, then we can start seeing how the parts rack
and stack?
| Complicated indeed, but the pros and cons of each are
pretty clear.
| As are the compromises that need to be made.
Are there any we have not addressed? Or not addressed
enough?
The telescoping seems able to get good structural bury and
great extension very simply and lightly.
Mike, et. al. Any thoughts?
| > So lets just assume tillers?
| >
| Definitely. And with telescoping extensions.
Mike said this was preferred anyway, IIRC.
| > Can the toy box and winches be removable and also
still hold the anchor well when anchored?
| >
| Yes.
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| >
| > Any ideas?
| >
| Several, but they are all compromises. Need to decide what
is important..
| If you are opening and closing the boat either side of a 2
hour sail after work, the requirements are different to
taking it apart to take it home once a season.
Tell me more.
A third target is the cruiser who wants a mono slip,
perhaps? Call that guy Arto?
So, if Mike is a once a season guy, Arto is a cruiser, and I
am the 2 hour guy. How does optimizing for me tick the other
two off?
| > How about when collapsed can the bench seat slide
over the lee hull? That eliminates the storage under them I
guess.
| >
| Yes and yes
|
| >
| > Or just make the benches removable as boxes, to keep
the storage? Assuming they are not a structural part of the
lee cabin wall.
| >
| They aren't, but they have to be put somewhere, as does
the tender and anything else removed.
Trailering, perhaps the bench boxes and toy box may stack
under, fore, and aft of the boat. Put the T40?? On its side
impaled on its lifts by the gin poles or mast stubs?
How high is the lee hull? Add the T40 width and 33" for the
trailer. Are we under 14'?
If you are in a slip and you got a T40?? where do you put
it? Can you just tie it behind your boat? Will it fit under?
Swamp it, and slide it under in the slip? Same with the
boxes?
Will the boxes float under the boat? Perhaps not the toybox.
I hope I didn't embarrass myself too much.