The problem is the bridge deck. Or, more
specifically, the helm station, winch's, and toybox.
There's room for some things fore/aft of the recessed cockpit
area, and as you point out, under the winches.
If you go with say, 50' of high-strength G70 armorgalv chain, and
then an all-dyneema rode hollow webbing as a chafe guard for the
next 50' to 100', you'll have a very light, nearly-bombproof rode
system that will fit in any of those three locations.
Note: as with an all-chain rode, the dyneema will need a snubber
system on deck to prevent shock loading. It will be stronger,
lighter, sturdier, and more uv-resistant than nylon, but the
complete lack of stretch would hammer the boat in a storm.
You could break down an aluminum danforth-style anchor to fit in
either location as well, and that will give the best holding power
on soft bottoms.
Though if you're really cruising, you'd probably also want a spade
or rocna type anchor for hard-packed bottoms or coral, but that
would be a lot heavier -- too heavy to put in a toybox that you're
moving by hand every time you go into and out of a marina slip.
You'd probably want to mount the heavy anchor outside the toybox,
under the beam, in a location you don't have to fiddle with when
collapsing or expanding the boat.
If we imagine the beam is 20'. Then
splitting the beam in half is 10', which is pretty much the limit
of the trailerable ww cabin width. My guess is the 10' split line
is at the lee edge of the ww outside cabin seats.
You'd definitely have to split it there for a 12' collapsed width
because the bunks extend under those seats.
Which means that if you want to collapse on the water, the
recessed cockpit and toybox(es) would either have to be: a)
removable, or b) not present.
If you move the winches closer together, you might be able to come
up with a system with a hinge at the top that flips the leeward half
of the cockpit upside down onto the outside seats. That would
probably get you down to 12' wide, but would also make it tough to
get inside the windward hull. The system would be more for
trailering and less for marinas.
Or... you could accept a 14' collapsed width for marinas, which is
still a common beam limit for marinas. 40' to 50' monohulls are
very common now, and a stock Beneteau Oceanis 41 is 14' wide.
If you can fiddle with the design enough to get the on-water
collapsed width down to 14', you're set for cruising. Then perhaps
make 2' to 3' of that a removable cockpit/toybox/winch area that can
be popped out for trailering. I think we'd still be a foot off with
the current design, but that's close enough to allow a solution.
The tender would still have to be moved outside the beams, though,
for marinas and trailering, and the motor controls switched over.
I'd go with a slightly different design, but since I consider the
Ex40 to near-optimal as it is (just not for my personal design
criteria), I'll put that in another thread.
Not just out of respect for the design, but also as recognition
that I'm not sure how much it can be improved upon given its
constraints and goals.
- Mike
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eruttan@yahoo.com [harryproa] wrote
on 10/25/2019 8:56 PM:
Looking at the rendered Ex40.
If we imagine the beam is 20'. Then splitting the beam in half
is 10', which is pretty much the limit of the trailerable ww
cabin width. My guess is the 10' split line is at the lee edge
of the ww outside cabin seats.
So, probably the 12' trailerable could just reuse the Ex40
cabin.
The problem is the bridge deck. Or, more specifically, the helm
station, winch's, and toybox.
The walkthrough rendering of the Ex40 seems to have forgotten
the toybox/anchor system. To my eyes it looks hollow under the
winches. Rob has said Steinar is trying to heat his shed to get
some infusions done. I guess that is a race against the season,
as he is north of the Arctic circle, I think. So, he's busy for
a few more weeks, and our good thoughts go out to him. He is,
after all, doing a most sacred thing, building a boat.
That said, does the toy box/anchor high enough stressed to need
to be solid between the beams? Or can it drop in or flip down?
Or does it need to be solid to the lee beams and it needs to be
part of the lee cabin ~12'?
If the spacing is tight, perhaps do like the C60, no cabin
attached seating, and the box is the seating?
http://harryproa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/C60-006.jpg